Comments on: Thesis Pissing In the WordPress Well? http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well Affaholic.com is an affiliate news and blog aggregator that pulls in all the latest content from popular (and some not so popular) affilate related sites. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 06:23:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: WordPress vs. Thesis: Can WP Themes Be Non-GPL? » Alpha Gecko http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-149 WordPress vs. Thesis: Can WP Themes Be Non-GPL? » Alpha Gecko Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:01:59 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-149 <p>[...] what a stormy issue this has become! The following was going to be a follow-up comment over on Andy Beard’s blog, but it got a little too long. Here’s my take on the [...]</p> [...] what a stormy issue this has become! The following was going to be a follow-up comment over on Andy Beard’s blog, but it got a little too long. Here’s my take on the [...]

]]> By: Haroun Kola http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-148 Haroun Kola Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:22:15 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-148 <p>I use the Thesis theme, and I want to use it on BuddyPress sites I will hopefully build using the new WP3.0 multiple domains. How does this licensing craziness impact my ideas?</p> I use the Thesis theme, and I want to use it on BuddyPress sites I will hopefully build using the new WP3.0 multiple domains. How does this licensing craziness impact my ideas?

]]> By: Vlad Zablotskyy http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-147 Vlad Zablotskyy Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:06:05 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-147 <p>Maybe I am reading Chris Pearson wrong, but I disagree with his argument and they he presented it in this interview…</p><p>I have been promoting Thesis as an affiliate…. needless to say I am leaving their affiliate program for now. :(</p><p>Come on guys kiss up and do the right thing! :)</p> Maybe I am reading Chris Pearson wrong, but I disagree with his argument and they he presented it in this interview…

I have been promoting Thesis as an affiliate…. needless to say I am leaving their affiliate program for now. :(

Come on guys kiss up and do the right thing! :)

]]> By: Ron http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-146 Ron Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:00:54 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-146 <p>“The only reason WordPress is GPL is because of the way it sticks like glue to the code, even after 7 years”.</p><p>Yep. That’s the derivative effect. WP 3.0 was derived from 2.9, which was derived from 2.8, … which was derived from WP 1.0 which was derived from b2. The only way to eliminate the GPL is to write the functionality new from scratch.</p> “The only reason WordPress is GPL is because of the way it sticks like glue to the code, even after 7 years”.

Yep. That’s the derivative effect. WP 3.0 was derived from 2.9, which was derived from 2.8, … which was derived from WP 1.0 which was derived from b2. The only way to eliminate the GPL is to write the functionality new from scratch.

]]> By: Andy Beard http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-145 Andy Beard Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:05:19 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-145 <p>You should use something like Buddymatic from Ron & Andrea or their Studiopress for Buddypress.</p><p>Last I read Buddymatic was going to be brought into the main Thematic code</p> You should use something like Buddymatic from Ron & Andrea or their Studiopress for Buddypress.

Last I read Buddymatic was going to be brought into the main Thematic code

]]> By: Andy Beard http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-144 Andy Beard Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:59:13 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-144 <p>That is an interesting point you make Vlad… so many Thesis affiliates are first and foremost WordPress people.</p><p>Whilst it wasn’t my intention to attack the affiliate base, and a large percentage of Thesis affiliates are more “marketers”, pissing in the WordPress pond is hardly “Third Tribe” – it is a pretty major breakdown in the overall message.</p> That is an interesting point you make Vlad… so many Thesis affiliates are first and foremost WordPress people.

Whilst it wasn’t my intention to attack the affiliate base, and a large percentage of Thesis affiliates are more “marketers”, pissing in the WordPress pond is hardly “Third Tribe” – it is a pretty major breakdown in the overall message.

]]> By: Andy Beard http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-143 Andy Beard Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:05:10 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-143 <p>I am sure the GPL lawyers would find a way to reword things if the GPL ever failed the “intent” in a court trial.</p><p>WordPress is “owned” (as far as I can tell) hese days by the WordPress foundataion which whilst it might have a few nest eggs and income from wp.org, isn’t as many might assume the owner of WordPress.com (Automattic), however I doubt there would be a problem raising money for a defense of the GPL.</p> I am sure the GPL lawyers would find a way to reword things if the GPL ever failed the “intent” in a court trial.

WordPress is “owned” (as far as I can tell) hese days by the WordPress foundataion which whilst it might have a few nest eggs and income from wp.org, isn’t as many might assume the owner of WordPress.com (Automattic), however I doubt there would be a problem raising money for a defense of the GPL.

]]> By: Dane Morgan http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-142 Dane Morgan Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:59:32 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-142 <p>The part about “WordPress people” is something that is very important, and that, I don’t think Chris “gets”. He probably can piss in the well and still earn a living from marketers who use WordPress, but he is alienating a much larger and more rabid potential pool of income in the WordPress People he simply doesn’t understand.</p><p>I’ve never owned Thesis, but I have worked with it for several clients who have owned it, and honestly, it really isn’t all that. Sure it has a dashboard, but the dash board doesn’t free a designer, it shackles them. It’s really not much use to someone who plans to have a designer create a site for them, but it’s probably fairly useful if you are slapping up a lot of cookie cutter blogs and write a quick install and configure script for it.</p><p>In all I actually prefer, if I’m forced to work with one of these things, to work with Thematic over Thesis.</p> The part about “WordPress people” is something that is very important, and that, I don’t think Chris “gets”. He probably can piss in the well and still earn a living from marketers who use WordPress, but he is alienating a much larger and more rabid potential pool of income in the WordPress People he simply doesn’t understand.

I’ve never owned Thesis, but I have worked with it for several clients who have owned it, and honestly, it really isn’t all that. Sure it has a dashboard, but the dash board doesn’t free a designer, it shackles them. It’s really not much use to someone who plans to have a designer create a site for them, but it’s probably fairly useful if you are slapping up a lot of cookie cutter blogs and write a quick install and configure script for it.

In all I actually prefer, if I’m forced to work with one of these things, to work with Thematic over Thesis.

]]> By: 32 Wordpress, Thesis, and GPL Links to Help You Formulate An Opinion | EMBRYO http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-141 32 Wordpress, Thesis, and GPL Links to Help You Formulate An Opinion | EMBRYO Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:04:17 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-141 <p>[...] Thesis Pissing in the WordPress Well? [...]</p> [...] Thesis Pissing in the WordPress Well? [...]

]]> By: Vlad Zablotskyy http://affaholic.com/affaholic/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well/comment-page-1#comment-140 Vlad Zablotskyy Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:27:34 +0000 http://affaholic.com/blog/thesis-pissing-in-the-wordpress-well#comment-140 <p>Andy,</p><p>I don’t think those who know you will think you are attacking affiliates. But as you said, many of those who use and now promote Thesis, are the WordPress users. Most of those users have been using WordPress for much longer than Thesis is old.</p><p>I personally have not used it, but I have recommended it to clients and friends. I would have not done it if I was aware of this “war”…</p><p>Fortunately over the years I have come to know WordPress and can make it to do (with the help of certain plugins and themes) everything Thesis does and then some.</p><p>I am glad you brought up the issue on your blog, otherwise I would have missed it completely.</p> Andy,

I don’t think those who know you will think you are attacking affiliates. But as you said, many of those who use and now promote Thesis, are the WordPress users. Most of those users have been using WordPress for much longer than Thesis is old.

I personally have not used it, but I have recommended it to clients and friends. I would have not done it if I was aware of this “war”…

Fortunately over the years I have come to know WordPress and can make it to do (with the help of certain plugins and themes) everything Thesis does and then some.

I am glad you brought up the issue on your blog, otherwise I would have missed it completely.

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